Today we learnt that the Information Commissioners Office has passed a judgement which means WYFRS should have to reveal information about its income from training - but scarily the report seems to indicate
THEY DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW THE GROSS FIGURE OF PROFIT THEY MAKE FROM FIRE TRAINING !!!!
Reference: FS50446509
Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOIA)
Decision notice
Date: 1 October 2012
Public Authority: West Yorkshire Fire and Rescue Service
Address: Oakroyd Hall
Bradford Road
Birkenshaw
West Yorkshire
BD11 2DY
Decision (including any steps ordered)
1. The complainant has requested a range of information relating to fire
training provided by West Yorkshire Fire and Rescue Service. The public
authority provided some of the requested information, confirmed some
information was not held and withheld some information under the
exemption where disclosure would be likely to prejudice its commercial
interests.
2. The Commissioner’s decision is that the public authority has correctly
confirmed that information relating to gross profits derived from the
provision of fire training is not held. In relation to the list of customers
in receipt of fire training, the Commissioner has decided that the public
authority has incorrectly applied the commercial interests exemption.
3. The Commissioner requires the public authority to take the following
steps to ensure compliance with the legislation.
Disclose the withheld information
4. The public authority must take these steps within 35 calendar days of
the date of this decision notice. Failure to comply may result in the
Commissioner making written certification of this fact to the High Court
pursuant to section 54 of the Act and may be dealt with as a contempt
of court.
We enclose the full judgement below, are you like us shocked that WYFRS do not keep accurate records ?
URGENT UPDATE
Strangely enough it has just been pointed out by a member of the FCCL team that the link to the training page of WYFRS website in the document above has a "broken link"
But they seem to have set up a new page ......
Available here
And what we can't understand - how do they not know their gross profit when they have detailed price lists like this one for a Fire Marshall Renewal Course?
Charge (No VAT)
Per person - When you book a
minimum of 8 places on a course £45
Fixed price - When you book a course
of up to 10 places £400
Fixed price - When you book a course
of up to 15 places £450
For other individual bookings - each
person £70
Training at Fire Service Headquarters, Birkenshaw, is all inclusive of parking and
a refreshment break.
And how come if they are so keen to cut services at the front line have they SLASHED their prices by up to
60%
Take a look at the documentation
HERE !!!!!!!!!
WOULD THEY DELIBERATELY RUN COURSES AT A "LOSS" -----??????
3 comments:
And as Tyne & Wear, Hereford and West Sussex also have FOI judgements against them we are curious to know who is sending them in.
of course they run them at a loss - its how they massage the "look how well we are doing" figures to justify closing stations.
I don't know how you find this stuff but keep digging - you are doing a great job.
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